Here’s to optimism

Fancy a bit more positivity around the business of running an agency?

Welcome to Co:definery’s podcast ‘The Immortal Life of Agencies’.

Here we celebrate the visionaries and change-makers who are actively future-proofing the agency sector. 

Each episode features our CEO Robin Bonn having short, sharp conversations – sometimes even friendly arguments – with some of the biggest, broadest and deepest thinkers in our industry. 

These are the leaders who’ve been there, done that and are happy to talk about the t-shirt – even if it’s a bit grubby.

Expect untold stories of progress – always optimistic and never dull.

Culture, entertainment and commerce

Jarrod Moses on brands, creators and agency models

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Episode 52

Jarrod Moses

Global CEO, UEG

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Unpacking the ‘Power of One’

Loren Grossman on integration, new-business and a golden age of client impact

Episode 51

Loren Grossman

Global CSO, Publicis Groupe

Comedy’s greatest ad agency

Haley Hunter on humour, neuroscience and owning your space

Episode 50

Haley Hunter

Co-founder, Party Land

Building modern legends

Jaime Robinson and Lisa Clunie on their philosophy, client fit and how deep roots drive brand growth

Episode 49

Jaime Robinson & Lisa Clunie

Co-founders, JOAN

The AI-enabled creative renaissance

Andrew Swinand on AI, scale and the reshaping of the industry

Episode 48

Andrew Swinand

CEO, Inspired Thinking Group (ITG)

A balanced take on indies vs HoldCo.s

John Harris on collaboration at scale, local knowledge and the rise of the CMO

Episode 47

John Harris

President & CEO, Worldwide Partners Inc.

Bringing contagious positivity

Karen Martin on relentless creativity, valuing ideas and building a positive future

Episode 46

Karen Martin

CEO, BBH London & Dublin

Evolving the business of creativity

Guy Wieynk on listening to the market, developing products and delivering content at scale

Episode 45

Guy Wieynk

Global CEO, AnalogFolk Group

Scaling culture at pace

Dimi Albers on bringing people with you on a PE-backed growth journey

Episode 44

Dimi Albers

CEO, Dept

Retaining the soul of creativity

Mark Figliulo on brand, performance and storytelling in the age of AI

Episode 43

Mark Figliulo

Founder, FIG

The power of ownership

Rania Robinson on selling up, buying back and stepping away

Episode 42

Rania Robinson

CEO, Quiet Storm

Pioneering a new agency model

Luke Smith on evolving vision, leveraging freelancers and scaling globally

Episode 41

Luke Smith

CEO, Croud

The alchemy of modern media agencies

Richard Morris on transformation, creativity and the future of full-service models

Episode 40

Richard Morris

CEO, UK and EMEA, IPG Mediabrands

Standing up for the next generation

Tesa Aragones on her client-side learnings, asking great questions and having courage as a leader

Episode 39

Tesa Aragones

CEO, The Americas, AKQA

The hidden goldmine of B2B

Valerie Beauchamp on creative and strategic opportunities for agencies

Episode 38

Valerie Beauchamp

VP Global Head of Agency Development and Marketer Education, LinkedIn

Reinventing your passion

Armando Turco on change, passion and staying close to the work

Episode 37

Armando Turco

President, Mojo Supermarket

Building a Market of One

Laurence Green interviews Robin Bonn about rewriting the rules and creating a lasting competitive advantage

Episode 36

Laurence Green

Director of Effectiveness, IPA

Coaching for commercial growth

Maureen Falvey on culture, empowerment and consultative selling

Episode 35

Maureen Falvey

Lead Coach & Trainer, Strong Training & Coaching

Differentiating your client experience

Allen Adamson how agencies can standout beyond the buzzwords

Episode 34

Allen Adamson

Co-Founder, Metaforce

Leading the next phase of digital

Michael Olaye on building truly anticipatory experiences

Episode 33

Michael Olaye

EVP, Huge

AI and the pursuit of happiness

Matt McNeany on disruption, reinvention and investing in your own future

Episode 32

Matt McNeany

President, WPP Open

Knowing the people behind the creds

Lisa Colantuono on creating powerful client / agency partnerships

Episode 31

Lisa Colantuono

President, AAR Partners

Creativity as a process

Eric Zuncic on the art of ‘uncomfortable collaboration’

Episode 30

Eric Zuncic

Global MD & CPO, Forsman & Bodenfors

A human-first future for agencies

Holly Maguire on creativity, connection, and change

Episode 29

Holly Maguire

Global Chief Growth Officer, Design Bridge & Partners

Leading with culture

Michael Lebowitz on thinking beyond fame and trends

Episode 28

Michael Lebowitz

Founder & Executive Chairman, SPCSHP

A unique perspective on agencies

Marla Kaplowitz takes stock of an industry in flux

Episode 27

Marla Kaplowitz

CEO, 4A's

Challenging the global market

James Townsend on meeting the needs of modern clients

Episode 26

James Townsend

CEO, Stagwell EMEA

Every moment is a chance

Nils Leonard on what it means to truly matter

Episode 25

Nils Leonard

Co-Founder, Uncommon Creative Studio

Making a promise to the market

Conrad Persons on balancing jeopardy, intuition and evidence

Episode 24

Conrad Persons

President, Grey London

Nurturing creative cultures

Toby Southgate on the value of constraints, optimism and empowerment

Episode 23

Toby Southgate

Global CEO, We Are Social

Breaking the burnout cycle

Bianca Best on balancing ambition and wellbeing

Episode 22

Bianca Best

Global Growth Officer, Performics

How audacious ideas get made

Trevor Guthrie on building a creative reputation from scratch

Episode 21

Trevor Guthrie

Co-founder, Giant Spoon

The quest for agency simplification

Ruud Wanck on creating clarity from complexity

Episode 20

Ruud Wanck

CEO, Candid

From phoney to fearless: building an agency ‘for the culture’

Omid Farhang on overcoming self-doubt to create a new kind of agency

Episode 19

Omid Farhang

Founder & CEO, Majority

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